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    Truck0r's annual come and save sacnr thread

    If you want any chance of making it popular again (which is slim given samp) they need a whole revamp of everything. Resets, new features, game modes, money sinks and probably most importantly admins. The game gets boring very quickly because once you have capital you can never lose it, it will just increase passively. However you can then make one mistake, or on some occasions play by the rules and lost absolutely anything - it's pretty well known and obvious people often get banned for a day after they lose their properties.

    In my opinion the only way would be for a group to sit down and come together with lots of ideas of missions, play styles, taxing, houses, businesses and instead of releasing things one by one just release the entire thing in one big revamp, while resetting absolutely everything at the same time. Jamie has plenty of time to code it all he's boring

    ps this is my annual come and save sacnr as it was overdue


    Edit: I moved this to its own thread (from sacnr redesign) since it was a slightly separate topic. - Jamie
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    jamie's not even dev of the year

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    wow an open suggestion thread about how to save this server and nobody says shit?..i guess i'll say fuck it and take the bait.
    i know everyone hates that i say so much so i'll try to be brief.

    Changes to Cops:
    - Make cops purchase hand cuffs and tazer items. Can only stock three at a time and have a crazy long cool down rate to buy more.
    - Encourage cops to use takedown instead of arrest.

    Changes to Civilians
    - Additional House slots or move some property locations
    (For fucks sakes, half or more of the properties are still unwanted...at least try something)

    - Require people to buy a house - can be arrested for being homeless if players do not own a house for over a week (excludes players below lvl 1)
    (More house robs would be available and maybe the market would get better)

    - New System for Drugs/Fish:
    Remove being able to sell drugs/fish to their current refill points and make new delivery missions available to make money of the items by taking them to places like well stacked pizza for fish (anchovy toppings are in high demand ;)
    and maybe Casinos or Jizzy's Pleasure Domes for the drugs..
    What would be even cooler is being able to deliver drugs/fish to player owned biz's so that player could then sell the drugs and fish as biz stock.
    - Delivery missions would be a crime and if you drive within a radius of the cop you go 6 stars wanted and says something like "K9 Patrol has detected you blah blah blah".

    Other things: Change the rates of income and values of almost everything and make things more balanced and also remove icons or make something to be able to bypass them.
    Right now things are set up so civilians can make a ton of money by growing drugs x fishing x selling cars or delivery missions and not have to worry about police. It's far more lucrative to do some combo of those things than it is robbing a bank or a casino which shouldn't be the case. Robbery is less common because most players just hide their money and so cops also take the easy way out and just camp around waiting to break up hit scenarios that can usually be found at ammunation.

    reseting everything might not be a bad choice if stuff like all that were to happpen.
    There's my two cents..gl and stop being so cautious about changing the game.
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    maybe it's for the best to reset some stuff, I have some cool stuff myself too so it's not that I want stuff resetted cuz I'm poor men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [WT]Dirty View Post
    wow an open suggestion thread about how to save this server and nobody says shit?..i guess i'll say fuck it and take the bait.
    i know everyone hates that i say so much so i'll try to be brief.

    Changes to Cops:
    - Make cops purchase hand cuffs and tazer items. Can only stock three at a time and have a crazy long cool down rate to buy more.
    - Encourage cops to use takedown instead of arrest.

    Changes to Civilians
    - Additional House slots or move some property locations
    (For fucks sakes, half or more of the properties are still unwanted...at least try something)

    - Require people to buy a house - can be arrested for being homeless if players do not own a house for over a week (excludes players below lvl 1)
    (More house robs would be available and maybe the market would get better)

    - New System for Drugs/Fish:
    Remove being able to sell drugs/fish to their current refill points and make new delivery missions available to make money of the items by taking them to places like well stacked pizza for fish (anchovy toppings are in high demand ;)
    and maybe Casinos or Jizzy's Pleasure Domes for the drugs..
    What would be even cooler is being able to deliver drugs/fish to player owned biz's so that player could then sell the drugs and fish as biz stock.
    - Delivery missions would be a crime and if you drive within a radius of the cop you go 6 stars wanted and says something like "K9 Patrol has detected you blah blah blah".

    Other things: Change the rates of income and values of almost everything and make things more balanced and also remove icons or make something to be able to bypass them.
    Right now things are set up so civilians can make a ton of money by growing drugs x fishing x selling cars or delivery missions and not have to worry about police. It's far more lucrative to do some combo of those things than it is robbing a bank or a casino which shouldn't be the case. Robbery is less common because most players just hide their money and so cops also take the easy way out and just camp around waiting to break up hit scenarios that can usually be found at ammunation.

    reseting everything might not be a bad choice if stuff like all that were to happpen.
    There's my two cents..gl and stop being so cautious about changing the game.
    1- I agree on tazer being overpowered, should get changed.
    2- Takedown could work.
    3- I agree on removing some props, there are lots of props and there are no longer 300+ players.
    4- I'm not sure about this one.
    5 & 6- Could be interesting, maybe you should post a thread about it.
    7- Yes, icon is shit. We need to encourage more robbing.
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    Make sure things are balanced before doing a hard reset, but it would encourage players to earn money and jump on the good stuff

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    didn't play during that time, but heard that last cash reset was complete fail because cops with high pay got it back effortlessly
    i dont think a reset of any sort will change much, unless its a total cash + prop + public service pay reset, in which case i think more people would start playing here again
    also a revert to old /buy system of unowned props, current one favors the wealthy heavily

    rework some props, add more unique houses instead of the hundreds of basic ones (1000 redsans shithouses and so on are not needed anymore, a few will do)

    add more interiors cus the game is not used up to its fullest potential, there are lots of cool unused interiors


    nerfing the cops is a must have

    agree with dirty that casino, biz etc robberies should be the focal point for civs, maybe make them harder and therefore more team-oriented and rewarding

    drug growing should take longer/be harder, remove the NPC for drugs, make players sell to others (get wanted for selling in public) basically make it a player controlled market
    either make a special command for transfering drugs or just be able to kill whoever scams you
    Also could introduce DEA class for cops, only they could seize plants and such


    make the current gameplay more skill-oriented, so carsurfing would not be possible

    have some tryout periods of removing some controversial weapons like m4(dont remove tho if carsurfing will get disabled) or tec-9
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    If icons are removed...that is no need to play anymore.
    Everyone can see how much you save on ur house,and on ur biz .
    Why the fuck i would try to win money while i know i'm going to lose all money from time to time .
    Icon is good :) ! . just don't give the oppertunity to cover map with icons ,increase distance between icons or something :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyboorg View Post
    If icons are removed...that is no need to play anymore.
    Everyone can see how much you save on ur house,and on ur biz .
    Why the fuck i would try to win money while i know i'm going to lose all money from time to time .
    Icon is good :) ! . just don't give the oppertunity to cover map with icons ,increase distance between icons or something :)
    Obviously anyone with an icon would say that. It has been suggested before but increasing robbery chances for icon businesses should be implemented. I think it was AChr1s, I'd say a 5-10% chance of icon robbery. Or having more people in a group increases the icon's robbery chances.

    This way I think it encourages civilians to rob more without being put off about the fact that there's an icon.


    PS. There are other reasons other than updates why players have stopped playing. Main reason as Truck0r stated was because of the fact that SAMP is pretty old.
    Last edited by Scarface_Capone; 14-03-2017 at 04:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BooyakaSha View Post
    didn't play during that time, but heard that last cash reset was complete fail because cops with high pay got it back effortlessly
    i dont think a reset of any sort will change much, unless its a total cash + prop + public service pay reset, in which case i think more people would start playing here again
    also a revert to old /buy system of unowned props, current one favors the wealthy heavily

    rework some props, add more unique houses instead of the hundreds of basic ones (1000 redsans shithouses and so on are not needed anymore, a few will do)

    add more interiors cus the game is not used up to its fullest potential, there are lots of cool unused interiors


    nerfing the cops is a must have

    agree with dirty that casino, biz etc robberies should be the focal point for civs, maybe make them harder and therefore more team-oriented and rewarding

    drug growing should take longer/be harder, remove the NPC for drugs, make players sell to others (get wanted for selling in public) basically make it a player controlled market
    either make a special command for transfering drugs or just be able to kill whoever scams you
    Also could introduce DEA class for cops, only they could seize plants and such


    make the current gameplay more skill-oriented, so carsurfing would not be possible

    have some tryout periods of removing some controversial weapons like m4(dont remove tho if carsurfing will get disabled) or tec-9
    First time i agree with most of what you say.
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